84 318i Air conditioner

knunger

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Gurus:

My 318i was converted to the R134 (or whatever) freon before I bought it.

It blows barely cool air. I Live in Tucson AZ and this ain't cuttin' it! It does not leak and everything seems to work fine. I was told to replace the expansion valve, then if that doesnt work, replace the evaporator.

Does this make sense?

How tough a job is this?


Thanks in advance folks!
 
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knunger said:
Gurus:

My 318i was converted to the R134 (or whatever) freon before I bought it.

It blows barely cool air. I Live in Tucson AZ and this ain't cuttin' it! It does not leak and everything seems to work fine. I was told to replace the expansion valve, then if that doesnt work, replace the evaporator.

Does this make sense?

How tough a job is this?


Thanks in advance folks!
does it blow cold air when you are driving down the highway? is your coolant level low? is the mat under the driver side wet?

i had the same problem. i had a leaky heater valve (one of the rivets busted and was leaking coolant. Instead of buying a new one, i bought a screw and nut which did the trick). the a/c was not blowing cool air because coolant pressure was low (i guess), although it would work better when i was driving down the highway.

you may also want to check your aux fan. when the a/c switch is on, it should be running. this is the fan in front of the radiator, not the one in the engine compartment which is your fan clutch.

you can also check your high and low temp coolant temperature switches and sensors and fuses.
 
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I was having problems with my A/C when I first got my car, but I got it working. You are going to need to give some more info.

Does the A/C get cold when driving on the interstate? (This is a critical question) Does the A/C compressor cycle on and off when the car is idling or when you rev the engine and hold it an elevated RPM (also a critical question)? Is the auxiliary fan working when the A/C is on? Does the engine temp get hot? Is the condensor (in front of the radiator) all gunked up with road crud?

I hate to tell you this, but it if there aren't any mechanical problems with the system, it could be the R-134. These cars have tiny, tiny tube and fin condensors on them. R-134 really requires a much larger flat tube radiator-style condensor in order to get the A/C satisfactorily cool. If we can't nail it down, you may need to take your car somewhere and have it evacuated and recharged with R-12 (about $60 a pound now just for the freon in my area of the country - these cars require a little over 2 pounds of refrigerant).

My car had two problems - the fan clutch was bad, and I think the car had R-134 in it. I had a guy I know who is one of the freezer technicians for a southeastern US grocery store chain evacuate my system and recharge it with R-12 for $30. It works so much better now. But, also keep in mind that these cars really do have pretty poor A/C units in them - they aren't known for getting ice-cold. Even with the R-12 in traffic, the A/C output isn't fabulous (but much better than with R-134).

Replacing the evaporator would be a big, expensive job - the evaporator is the unit in the A/C/heater unit inside the car. The expansion valve could be bad, but lets make sure it isn't something else first because replacing the expansion valve will require evacuating the system and recharging it.
 
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Hey Justin-thanks for the tips. I will look into all this stuff and let you know the results. I think mechanically, everything is fine (except for the fan clutch). i'M tending toward a expansion valve/evaporator rebuild.

I can handle a wrench and am not afraid of freons.
Can I email you directly?

I am knunger@aol.com

Thanks again...

Kim
 
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I'm having the same problem after changing a hose and the drier on it cus the drier valve was blown but now i have no leaks and after recharging with r-134-a the air sort of got little cool but not cold at all and i live in Phoenix, AZ and its too hot to be driving with no ac, but i'll try checking my radiator pipes cus i thought that might be the issued too small hoses for the r-134 to go thru
 


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