Couple of details on the next 5er.

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I forsee many elecronic failures/breakdowns. BMW owners will have to pay for the testing of new and advanced technology. I don't know about you all, but with the E39 I am already feeling that this is one area where BMW is definitely slacking in reliability. They are rushing into hi-tech stuff for their late models these past few years, I guess to keep up with times and to stay ahead of their competition. They have a long history of building driving machines...but electronics and software....???

I have always been a loyal BMW lover and owner (still struggling to be one!), but lately have been very frustrated with the reliability of their product, eventhough I still believe my car performs and handles exceptionally well. But RELIABILITY counts!

Long before I could afford my first BMW, in my younger years, the closest I got to one was in a showroom or at a carshow. I still remember closing the doors and was so impressed with the solid "chomp". I told myself I wanted a BMW one day, even the doors shut solid! Well...my first BMW came in 1998, it was a used 95 540iA. Doors shut solid all right, "Chomp".

Now I have a 2000 540iA, where did the "Chomp" go??? A friend of mine got a brand new X5 3.0...no "Chomps", doors shut like any other car. Another friend with a 98 528i, same thing. I checked out the new cars in the showroom, most of them lost the "Chomps" except the 7series. I know, some of you will say it's no big deal with how the doors shut, but little things matter and they all add up. Even my windshield doesn't stand up to scratches and the highway anymore. Neither does the paintjob! I used to believe BMWs had the best paintjobs around! Leather seats that squeak with your every move? I have been in other "lesser" cars that doesn't do that!

What I'm saying is, prices are hiking, quality is compromised, and we are paying for the testing of hi-technology. I really want to remain a BMW owner...but I don't know for how long before I lose faith in their product. At some point, I have actually thought of the possibility of another make for my next car...maybe a Porsche....even a Japanese! That is a very unhealthy thought coz' eversince I have driven my first BMW, I knew I would never drive anything less. But when your expectations are met with disappointments, I guess loyalty and faith will slowly diminish.....afterall....I did say I will never drive anything less.
 
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Ahhhhh iDrive....this is why I like older cars. Don't get me wrong, I like all bimmers up to the E46, after that though, I could care less. When I see the E60, I start thinking about how nice the E39 was.
 
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I hear ya... I'm not that big of a fan of the e60... I will give iT a try just to make sure I am not missing something

When iT comes time to buy a new one, I will be hard pressed to actually plunk down 60+ for the e60... makes ANY amg look good
 
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yeah but at least BMW is still good about the stick. merc and audi can't spell six speed lol.
u want an auto? yeah we have a good one. it almost reads your mind they say in the review
heheh.

but i think mrferg said it best . e46 was the best one, after that it went down hill. 2001 was the best year for bmw. nice 7, nice 5, nice 3...all good products.

oh well.

and the iDrive is very poor compared to audi's system in the A8...they both use knobs though. i wonder how much money bmw wasted on developing the iDrive?
 
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Actually a lot of Audi's cars have manual transmission available. The A4's, select A6 models, and the TT. Mercedes offers manual transmission for the C-Class and SLK-Class...Mercedes doesn't offer manual because they have pretty much perfected the automatic transmission. For a Benz with a manual compared to a Benz with an automatic, there is no difference in acceleration. Not only that, Mercedes is more focused on luxury than they are about sport, so they feel an automatic transmission is more appropriate in their cars.
I think the problem with the new 5 and the new 7 is the design. BMW achieved the "nice" factor really well, but their is no aggression to their cars. The previous 5-series was really good at being nice and luxurious, while still having an aggressive stance and a really mean front end. I think the new 545i 6-Speed needs some rugged aggressive 18" wheels or a more aggressive front spoiler.
 
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Well said, MrElussive! It lacks the aggressive look and the road-hugging low profile. I want that nice looking, sporty, aggressive and mean look, as if it's blowing flames out of its front nostrils. The new 5 looks more like a "pretty car" for a gentleman.
 
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More electronic equipment... [rolleyes] thats what we need ?!? [???1]

iDrive ? Older bimmers drive just fine without the "uDrive"... I always loved BMW, but I feel much better when I drive than when it drives.
[:D]
 
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BMW 525i said:
More electronic equipment... [rolleyes] thats what we need ?!? [???1]

iDrive ? Older bimmers drive just fine without the "uDrive"... I always loved BMW, but I feel much better when I drive than when it drives.
[:D]
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Yea I like a computer to tell me the time and the temperature, not how to drive!
 
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I don't mind hi-tech electronics, IF they are reliable and make things convenient and easy. NOT if they are unreliable and unstable like WindowsME, and make life more stressful and complicated instead! I think having electronic stuff that are not subject to wear and tear (eg. rain sensor, instrument cluster, memory modules, etc) breakdown in 1 to 3 years sucks! They are more sales gimmicks to edge the competitors in marketing, rather than proven and tested advanced technology.
 
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MrElussive said:

I think the problem with the new 5 and the new 7 is the design. BMW achieved the "nice" factor really well, but their is no aggression to their cars. The previous 5-series was really good at being nice and luxurious, while still having an aggressive stance and a really mean front end. I think the new 545i 6-Speed needs some rugged aggressive 18" wheels or a more aggressive front spoiler.
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That is exactly what I think. There is no aggressiveness to the cars anymore, they are just too soft. They would make nice Mary Kay (the cosmetic/makeup lady) cars though, if available in pink.
 
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Hmmm...come to think of it, maybe our Bangle friend has lately "explored his potentials" and has realized, and expressed the new-found "gay" taste of his! [hihi]
 
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bahnstormer said:
yeah but at least BMW is still good about the stick. merc and audi can't spell six speed lol.
u want an auto? yeah we have a good one. it almost reads your mind they say in the review
heheh. (snip)
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Like the guy that taught me how to work on cars said...
"If you want performance, get a Porsche. If you want comfort, get a Merc. If you want both, get a Bimmer!"
 
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Eh, it's a compromise, though. Porsche is higher performance than BMW and Mercedes is higher luxury than BMW (yes, I know I am opening up a can of worms by saying this, but that's how I feel). BMW is a great combination of both, but loses a little bit of each in the process.
But yeah, if I wanted Porsche (911) performance and Mercedes (E-Class) luxury, I would get an M5. [:D]
 
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