Engine Restore Lubricant?
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Yeah engine additives are not a good idea in any circumstance. www.bobistheoilguy.com has LOTS of good info on lubricants, and tests to prove that additives aren't a good idea.
Maybe it's the engine, but I own an '89 535i with over 300k miles on it and when I started adding Restore at around 150k I felt a slight increase in power, I also use Prolong. I have since bought a '98 540 that I love, but it's hard to part with the '89 (the trans went out). Many people have commented that the 3.5 was the "work horse" of BMW that is a matter of debate. To me facts are important, and the fact is that in all the time that I have owned the vehicle only thing I changed on the engine was the head gasket when I bought it at 74k miles (previous owner never let it warm up) and the water pump. If anything I would always use Prolong, it helps the engine on cold starts and this is primarily where damage occurs. My '89 has unfortunately been sitting outside in below freezing and at times below zero weather for over two weeks and started on the first try and stayed running.
The 3.5 liter, or big six was the work horse and I too owned one with over 280k on her when I sold her. The only repair I ever did was a headgasket. I changed my oil often and drove the heck out of that car and I never used restore or any oil additive. I have had many BMW mechanics tell me to never add any oil additive. You will feel a slight power increase as the "restore" gunks up your motor, but in reality you have added a bandaid. I have torn apart motors that have had additives added to the oil and they are gummed up badly. Sorry but I would not use it.
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Kind of like Slick 50! There is no physical way that you can repair damaged/worn metal by puring something in your crankcase. I have read all the theories about bonding, coating, etc. They do not work. A worn out bearing is not going to become new again. Same theroy with STP, gum up the engine, creating higher oil pressure and you may feel a boost in power, then everything gums up and your back to square one, worse you have now gummed up your engine. Sorry, I do not believe all I read, show me some physical proof conducted by an independant source....never happen.
Kind of like Slick 50! There is no physical way that you can repair damaged/worn metal by puring something in your crankcase. I have read all the theories about bonding, coating, etc. They do not work. A worn out bearing is not going to become new again. Same theroy with STP, gum up the engine, creating higher oil pressure and you may feel a boost in power, then everything gums up and your back to square one, worse you have now gummed up your engine. Sorry, I do not believe all I read, show me some physical proof conducted by an independant source....never happen.
Engine Restorer
Dear Big Daddy!
I understand and appreciate your misbelieve in any kind of oil additive. Moreover, I agree with you that the results from Slick 50, STP, ProLOng, etc. at best are short term. But when I am talking about XADO technology the story is different. I personally was introduced to this technology 5 years ago and I am using it on every car I have got since then plus all my home equipment. The results are phenomenal! This technology was discovered 35 years ago in Siberia and was highly classified project in the former USSR. Now it is commercialized for 11 years by the best Russian scientist and sold as of now in 124 countries around the globe.
The mechanism is really simple. It takes the metal shaving out of oil and glue it back on the surface. Also, it is compacting a few external atomic layers, so the surface becomes very hard and slippery. They call it cermet (ceramic + metal). For a full description of how it works go to As a bottom line the efficiency and performance of the engine are drastically improved. I measured 40% compression increase in my lawnmower. Sysco Food Services claimed 11% fuel economy after the treatment. Try it for yourself and see. You do not have to put it in your baby, you can try it in your lawnmower first.
Regards,
Dmitry
Dear Big Daddy!
I understand and appreciate your misbelieve in any kind of oil additive. Moreover, I agree with you that the results from Slick 50, STP, ProLOng, etc. at best are short term. But when I am talking about XADO technology the story is different. I personally was introduced to this technology 5 years ago and I am using it on every car I have got since then plus all my home equipment. The results are phenomenal! This technology was discovered 35 years ago in Siberia and was highly classified project in the former USSR. Now it is commercialized for 11 years by the best Russian scientist and sold as of now in 124 countries around the globe.
The mechanism is really simple. It takes the metal shaving out of oil and glue it back on the surface. Also, it is compacting a few external atomic layers, so the surface becomes very hard and slippery. They call it cermet (ceramic + metal). For a full description of how it works go to As a bottom line the efficiency and performance of the engine are drastically improved. I measured 40% compression increase in my lawnmower. Sysco Food Services claimed 11% fuel economy after the treatment. Try it for yourself and see. You do not have to put it in your baby, you can try it in your lawnmower first.
Regards,
Dmitry
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"It takes the metal shaving out of oil and glue it back on the surface. Also, it is compacting a few external atomic layers, so the surface becomes very hard and slippery." Same claim made by all other engine additives. It is physically impossible to "glue" metal shavings from my crankshaft, or rod bearings back where they belong. I am curious what the compression ratio was before and after on your lawn mower? Are you a salesman for this company? You need to hook up with the Toronado man.
Engine Restorer
Honestly, I do not remember. It was 3 years ago. And it worked the same last season. If you want to I can measure it now, but please wait until it will be a little bit warmer (I am in Detroit).![[:(]](/images/smilies/frown.png "Frown [:(]")
I cannot give you a lot personal information in open board. If you want, send me e-mail at dtananko@yahoo.com and I will respond.
Regarding "Gluing" - I am talking about very complicated 2-stage process of the diffusion of the natural mineral particles into the metal matrix and then building a new layer on top of that. This process starts at 900 C, which is possible in local friction zones. X-ray of the surface after the treatment is showing 0.3% compression of atomic grid within 8-10 atomic layers. This phenomenon was known since 1952 in the laboratory, but it was impossible to reproduce it in normal conditions until recently.
Moreover, I am describing to you a very little known in US technology, known as geo-tribology.
Regards,
Dmitry
Honestly, I do not remember. It was 3 years ago. And it worked the same last season. If you want to I can measure it now, but please wait until it will be a little bit warmer (I am in Detroit).
I cannot give you a lot personal information in open board. If you want, send me e-mail at dtananko@yahoo.com and I will respond.
Regarding "Gluing" - I am talking about very complicated 2-stage process of the diffusion of the natural mineral particles into the metal matrix and then building a new layer on top of that. This process starts at 900 C, which is possible in local friction zones. X-ray of the surface after the treatment is showing 0.3% compression of atomic grid within 8-10 atomic layers. This phenomenon was known since 1952 in the laboratory, but it was impossible to reproduce it in normal conditions until recently.
Moreover, I am describing to you a very little known in US technology, known as geo-tribology.
Regards,
Dmitry
Engine Restorer
I understand your suspiciousness. But i just came across your statement, which sounded like "all american cars are BS, because I tried one GM car and it was BS, that is why I consider all of them BS, until somebody will prove otherwise". It is an inductive approach trying to generalize a statement based upon a few trials. Sometime it does work... But I knew the different case and was tying to share my point of view with you. I was dissapointed in a lot of "performance enhancing" products on the market, and was very glad that I found this one. That's all. Sorry, if I offended you in any way.
Regards,
Dmitry
P.S. I was initially looking for anybody who test drove a new 5 series. Did anybody tried a new one?
I understand your suspiciousness. But i just came across your statement, which sounded like "all american cars are BS, because I tried one GM car and it was BS, that is why I consider all of them BS, until somebody will prove otherwise". It is an inductive approach trying to generalize a statement based upon a few trials. Sometime it does work... But I knew the different case and was tying to share my point of view with you. I was dissapointed in a lot of "performance enhancing" products on the market, and was very glad that I found this one. That's all. Sorry, if I offended you in any way.
Regards,
Dmitry
P.S. I was initially looking for anybody who test drove a new 5 series. Did anybody tried a new one?
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You didn't offend me in any way or are you talking to Big Daddy? Anyway, with a new X-Type I think they would let you test drive the new 5 for sure. I'm not saying that you can't ask around, you can, just that people like me will need to rely on luck and lots of it to get a test drive of a new BMW and I think you'd have no problems. It's always better to experience something yourself, although I don't like the new styling, I do want to test drive the car, just for the hell of it but there is a really slim chance that they'd let me. Oh well.