raced a 300z

ooo000HITMAN000ooo · Sep 15, 2003

Raced a riced up older 300z!!!!

Ok my brother was driving his 2003 mercedes c230 1.8 at about 60 mph we had the air on and a full tank of gas. A RICED 300z comes up and starts riding our ass so my brother punches it we pop up to 85 going around corners the rice comes up next to us and we go up to 90 the rice cant handle the corners so he goes about 65 around them when we are going 85 around them we slow down because we dont want a ticket the rice gets right next to us so we punch it and take off the rice falls behind. We turn to go home and he goes the same way and flys past us knowing we already one we didnt fallow. Stupid rice! They think they are so cool with there piece of crap!

ITS SO FUN KICKING SOME RICE ASS [thumb]

PuShAkOv · Sep 15, 2003

Nice.. had the same story with an M3.

ooo000HITMAN000ooo · Sep 15, 2003

not the new z the old z's

codex57 · Sep 16, 2003

Must not have been a turbo and it musta been in pretty bad shape. Prolly someone who didn't know what they were doing (like most ricers) when he fixed up his car. I know a guy w/ a sweet twin turbo Z. Thing's a freaking monster. Was in Turbo car magazine a while back. Not sure if he sold it though since he just bought a 911 Turbo.

A C230 is one of the few cars I'd consider racing in my slow ass 325.

ooo000HITMAN000ooo · Sep 16, 2003

the c230s are very nice cars there supercharged and intercooled engions are great and they handle good to.

It was a redneck driving the z.

Bryan330i · Sep 16, 2003

A 300 Z? I can see how that can happen-they are all show and not so great of a car. I would say the MB is better built to deal with speed and could trash the 300Z.., even with the best driver.

Bryan330i · Sep 16, 2003

ooo000HITMAN000ooo said:

They (MB) are built for high speed driving Hitman. My co-worker just rebuilt a 300Z, it is still no match for my 330i pp. I believe your race story, I would expect the same result.

epj3 · Sep 16, 2003

Bryan330i said:

What are you talking about? The 300Z is an amazing car!! It's interior was ahead of it's time, and the twin turbo engine (if thats what you got) has over 280 horses and can do 0 - 60 in the low 5's. I'm not sure what you mean by it's not so great of a car. It's probably one of the best japanese sports cars to come out, EVER.

Spidey · Sep 16, 2003

epj3 said:

Word!

When I bought my ///M Roadster it was a toss-up between the bimmer and this sweet 96 300Z TwinTurbo with all the extras. The Z belonged to some millionaire that had a ton cars in his collection and he was cleaning some of them out. It was in import tuner and pushed almost 500hp with 18lbs of boost. This thing was seriously a monster. In fact, he had a Corvette C5 that he said couldn't touch the Z. It was in mint condition too. Man I wish I could have bought that car in addition to my bimmer. It was one fly ride.

Bryan330i · Sep 16, 2003

epj3 said:

If you feel it defines the sports car and was “ahead of its time” I have no problem with that. We all have opinions based upon our perceptions, experiences, and expectations. My opinion is that I would give it only a standard rating for its class, I do not think it clearly excels. The non-turbo is 220 HP, and beyond that I am not one that takes HP as the final word on performance. Say the supercharged MB was only 189, 198 whatever it is, that to me is not the whole story. When I drove the 300Z, which was not often, I found it to be a very nice car but not what I would say is exceptional in terms of power and handling. My memory of the 300Z and more current experience with the MB and a recently rebuilt 300Z that a coworker owns leads me to conclude that the MB has much, much, much stronger handling capabilities than the 300Z. This is my opinion. And not to start something else, but I remember a guy recently stating that his Camaro made the “M guys cry.” My perception is that I have been in a Camaro at 110 and thought that we were breaking up, my preference would be the M, I would much rather be in the M in a significant high speed contest. But to that guy, the Camaro that made the M guys cry is probably the hottest thing on the planet. One guy’s Hyundai is another guy’s Cadillac. There is nothing wrong with that.

///M SPEED · Sep 16, 2003

epj3 said:

to the second degree. I have owned Z's all my life, Still have my first (72 240z, 98,000 original miles, balance and blueprinted, roll cage, 6" high rise hood for cooling, fairlady mirrors, raced stockbox in the 70's, 2" sway bars front/back, etc...) one. My buddy has one with a twin turbo 300z motor balanced 50/50 with mass room left under the hood for other mods. That car will roast Z1R/C5 vettes, hell just about anything that he comes across. The Z is the original everymans racer. "Crap" my a$$.

P.S. My 72 240z will take corners almost as well as my Y2k 328i. Thats without DSC etc... That car has no body roll, front nose dive under hard breaking and handles very very well. The only loss in cornering is the give from the tires on their stock 14" rims. If I upgraded the rims and put low profile/wide tires that car would be even more awesome. Many new cars w/new technology will be better, but for a car built in the early 70's with minimal mods it will handle it's own.

ooo000HITMAN000ooo · Sep 16, 2003

i think the twin turbo z's are ok, but the n/a ones are crap. I have been in a n/a and was not impressed withe build Quality at all. The turbo ones in my opinon are only good for ther motor

Bryan330i · Sep 16, 2003

I had a 280Z, fun car but my friends Audi trashed me every time. As a car review indicated "you can call it a poor mans Ferrari but it still does not make it a Ferrari." I am sure there are people driving Saturns that think they are the fastest thing on the planet, its all relative. As I said, it is all relative to one's individual experiences. I just cant see a 280 HP 300Z striking fear into all others in the automotive industry and every driver on the road, and if you do you must live in a very diferent place than myself. [confused]

But if you feel that way-great! I am still reluctant to think that it is beyond an M3, M5, 911, and so many others. All of these even outperform the newest Z, believe it or not it is true, you can check reviews to verify for yourself. I am not saying that the Z is crap, I just do not think that it is the ultimate driving machine and I am sorry that some of you do.

///M SPEED · Sep 17, 2003

Bryan330i said:

Who ever said it was the poor mans Ferrari? Whoever said it was the "fastest thing on this planet"? Who ever said it "strikes fear into all others"? Who ever said it was "beyond an M3, M5, 911, and so many others"? Who ever said it was the "ultimate driving machine as some of do"? Hitman stated it was crap did you? [confused]

I don't need to check the reviews. You’re trying to compare apples to oranges. I never did try to compare or think is was the "fastest thing on this planet". Where did you get that idea, besides I don't need the "fastest thing on the planet". Funny how people have to have a car that beats this, beats that. I gave an example of a car (mine and my friends) that is a very fun car to drive and cheap (by the way that twin turbo "72" Z my friend has WILL strike fear into most drivers) that is built by a Japanese ("rice") company and is not crap. Some here think if it's not BMW, MB, Porsche, etc... it just not worthy of owning or driving. You stated it best in the first sentence, which is good enough for most people driving, when you stated it was a fun car. I too had a 280z ("78", “77”, “80”) and your right it was a very fun car to drive (out of the 280z’s I owned the “78” was the most fun). While driving this car I never worried (as I do now with all cars I own) about how fast it was or what cars I could beat with it. I could care less if my car doesn’t' (my BMW included) "beat" anyone else's car. As long as the car is "fun" to drive and gives me a thrill to take to the mountains and carve the curves it's all I need regardless if it less superior to someone else's exotic. However, that said it is fun to mess with some people light to light, but win or loose it is all about having fun. [:)]

///M SPEED · Sep 17, 2003

Hitman,

By the way nice kill. I do agree with one thing you said. Taking a nice car and "ricing it out" does constitute making most into crap. My past post were not directed at you stating all Z's are crap. I was just trying to make a point (as was epj3) that the Z car's (non-rice) are good cars and fun to drive. [:)]

codex57 · Sep 17, 2003

No one said it was the ultimate driving machine. It's just a very nice car that doesn't deserve to be trashed on. The turbo had 4 wheel steering and the handling was actually very nice. It had a good percentage of luxury built in unlike the other cars in its class. I'm pretty sure it had a nice round 300hp too. It's not crap. The n/a one might have been slower, but so is my 325. It certainly isn't any worse than a 318i which was out at the same time as the Z. I mean, BMW sticks a stinkin 4 cylinder in their luxury car and still calls it the Ultimate Driving Machine? No wonder it got trashed in the magazine comparos. BMW isn't the end all of driver cars, they just are at the top is luxury sport sedans. I think Hitman just ran into a redneck riced out one where the driver didn't know what he was doing and put parts on that made the car slower. After all these years, I still think it's one of the most beautiful coupes ever built (personal opinion).

///M SPEED · Sep 17, 2003

codex57 said:

I agree. That is a very good analogy about the 325 (which is good enough to most) to say the 330. Most manufactures that create a car that is appealing to a wide range of individuals are going to make a less powerful model to attract people that a) don't need/want a high performance vehicle, but want it sporty or b) want a sporty car without the higher price tag (not to mention the insurance cost).

Bryan330i · Sep 17, 2003

codex57 said:

No one said it was the ultimate driving machine. It's just a very nice car that doesn't deserve to be trashed on. The turbo had 4 wheel steering and the handling was actually very nice. It had a good percentage of luxury built in unlike the other cars in its class. I'm pretty sure it had a nice round 300hp too. It's not crap. The n/a one might have been slower, but so is my 325. It certainly isn't any worse than a 318i which was out at the same time as the Z. I mean, BMW sticks a stinkin 4 cylinder in their luxury car and still calls it the Ultimate Driving Machine? No wonder it got trashed in the magazine comparos. BMW isn't the end all of driver cars, they just are at the top is luxury sport sedans. I think Hitman just ran into a redneck riced out one where the driver didn't know what he was doing and put parts on that made the car slower. After all these years, I still think it's one of the most beautiful coupes ever built (personal opinion).

I checked, it is 220 HP and 280 HP with turbo.

Bryan330i · Sep 17, 2003

///M SPEED said:

My buddy has one with a twin turbo 300z motor balanced 50/50 with mass room left under the hood for other mods. That car will roast Z1R/C5 vettes, hell just about anything that he comes across. The Z is the original everymans racer. "Crap" my a$$.

Just about anything he comes across? We all have a different view which is fine. My only statement was that I can see the MB Kompresser taking this car. The assumption is that it was not turbo, if we do that we then need to compare the AMG model MB with 350 HP and my opinion would stay the same. My original statement was “not so great” about the Z, again thinking that the race was the 220 HP non-turbo Z. Nice car-yes.

codex57 · Sep 17, 2003

weird

Bryan330i said:

Car and Driver has 280 and 300hp listed. Coulda sworn it was 300 tho cuz I remember only the RX-7 was under 300 out of the 4 big Jap sports cars.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=2118&page_number=1

Edmunds has it at 300 too.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1995/ni...l?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..6.Nissan*

Not that it matters all that much. Ha, finally tracked down teh 0-60 of a n/a Z. 6.8 seconds. That's a good kill for the Benz.

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