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I have an '89 325i convertible with 62K miles on it. I'm having an odd problem when I attempt to start the engine. About every tenth time I try to start it, it turns over but will never actually fire off. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is hot or cold, and it can turn over FOR EVER and never start. Then you turn the key one more time and it starts right up. A friend suggested it might be the starter solenoid, which I understand is not an easy swap out. Any suggestions??
 

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It cant be the starter solenoid if it turns over. Sounds like your Crank Shaft Positioning Sensor CPS. Easy to replace. Also could have a loose ground wire, or electrical connection. Bad ignition switch. Let me know more info.
 
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no, it's not the solenoid, probably not the ingition switch... but it could be many, many other things. maybe a lazy fuel pump relay, or a lazy fuel pump for that matter. Bad ground is definately possible to (block to chassis).
 
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Check all your earths are clean and tight, straps from chassis to engine, battery negative to chassis etc...
Check your connections on the coil.
check and make sure all injector plugs are clean, free from dirt and are tight.

An 89" with 62 000k, thats low mileage!
 
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Mine does the same thing, I actually burned my starter after the 1st few months I took ownership. Theyre is suposdely some tube going to the pump that you can replace to get rid of it.

I think i saw it in some 5 series forum...
 
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An 89" with 62 000k, thats low mileage!
They're getting to be really hard to come by these days... the price of E30's is starting to go up for ones like that. 62,000 miles is low... my Mom's 89 325i only has 46,000miles (74,000kms). I'm waiting for just the right time for me to steal it away from her!!![}:)]
 
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Mine does the same thing, I actually burned my starter after the 1st few months I took ownership. Theyre is suposdely some tube going to the pump that you can replace to get rid of it.

I think i saw it in some 5 series forum...
What you probably saw was a inline check valve being put in top of the fuel tank from one of the primary fuel pump lines (under the inspection panel lid, under the back seat)
Helps maintain fuel pressure while the engine is hot, and off.

http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Trouble/535ihot_start.asp

Though that link is specific to the 5 series, I'm not sure which line is the supply line on the e30 off hand.
 
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+1 to everyone else's comments, but I have something to add.

On the later e30's (like yours) there is a main engine loom plug located under the intake manifold. It is a push and twist job, and was put in by BMW to simplify removing the motor. Problem is they have a habit of corroding and cause the exact problem you describe. Give the plug a good clean out with electrical contact cleaner, etc and then see how you go.

If it still happens, then I have had a similar problem and it turned out to be a faulty starter motor which is a 30 min job to replace. Also check the main engine and fuel relays under the plastic cover on the LHS of the engine bay near the main fuse box.
 
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Thanks to all for the suggestions; I have been investigating several of them but have not found the specific cause just yet. In the meantime, my car has developed another unusual and likely related condition that might shed some light on the original problem. When driving, the engine will completely die. It doesn't happen when stopped, but rather when traveling at normal speed. The first time it happened, I pulled over and restarted the car after a few tries. The next time, I pushed the gas pedal and the car just skipped a beat and started going again. Very odd sensation. Does that sound like my fuel pump going out? If so, are they a nightmare to change out? I believe mine is in the fuel tank.
 
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Well, I'd say it is your fuel pump.
And yes, you have one priming fuel pump in the tank and one external fuel pump just before the rear left wheel arch under the car.
 


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