1997 I6 or 2001 I6?

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I'm looking to buy my first Z3 and I’m looking at 1997's and 2001's. The 01's are roughly twice the price as the 1997. I know hp wise the 97 is @ 189 and the 01 @ 215. I just don’t know about 26hp being worth that. Can you guys give me any direction on this? Are they any good mod’s for Z3’s?
 
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From my understanding, 2001 Z3 3.0's have 225hp, not 215hp. 2001 models on average are going to be much "younger" in mileage as well, so a lot of the extra price goes into that.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the later Z3 come with the flared rear quarters to accomodate the wider rear track. Its approximately 3" wider than the front.
 

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No not just later ones, the later Z3's rear fenders were changed, my 97 2.8 had the same wide track and fenders that the M's have, I believe all the 6's have the same rear track.
 

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I hope your kidding, otherwise I have lost all respect for you. I know too many people who have lost love ones as a result of intoxicated/high drivers. If your just being a wiseacre than I won't waste my time.
 
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I hope your kidding, otherwise I have lost all respect for you. I know too many people who have lost love ones as a result of intoxicated/high drivers. If your just being a wiseacre than I won't waste my time..
Intoxicated is not the same as high. When you're drunk, you weave all over the road and you become an extremely risky driver with no reflexes. When you drive high, studies have shown that the driver is actually more cautious because of the paranoia that comes with the whole high experience.

I don't condone driving under any kind of influence, but in all seriousness, when have you ever heard or read the headline, "TEENAGER DIES FROM DRIVING WHILE HIGH"


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MrElussive said:
Intoxicated is not the same as high. When you're drunk, you weave all over the road and you become an extremely risky driver with no reflexes. When you drive high, studies have shown that the driver is actually more cautious because of the paranoia that comes with the whole high experience.

I don't condone driving under any kind of influence, but in all seriousness, when have you ever heard or read the headline, "TEENAGER DIES FROM DRIVING WHILE HIGH"
With 22 years of law enforcement experience I respectfully have to tell you you could not be more wrong! What studies have shown drivers who are high are more "cautious"? You do not hear that headline because the code and arrest for DUI is actually, Driving under the influence of intoxicating beverages or of drugs. The press and the general public are never aware of what the "intoxicating" substance is. I have personal experience with numerous drug related driving arrests and believe me they are just as hazardous as alcohol related drivers.
 
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Blah Blah Blah would any grown up's like to anwser my question. Which Z3 should I go with 97 2.8L or 01 3.0L? The 97 problem going to be around $250 a month and the 01 would be around $350
 
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Big Daddy, you've brought nothing to this post. Joking not joking doesn't matter. The focus of this board is about BMW's. You talk about wasting time stop wasting mine. Fillup someone else post about non topic points.

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I guess I was right!
 
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Blah Blah Blah would any grown up's like to anwser my question. Which Z3 should I go with 97 2.8L or 01 3.0L? The 97 problem going to be around $250 a month and the 01 would be around $350


What I’m wanting to know is what is the main difference between the 97 and the 01 besides the engines.
Here's the grown-up answer you wanted, my opinion is at the bottom:

1996-2002 BMW Z3: Highlights

Launched in spring of 1996, this was BMW's first sports car in 40 years. Based on the 3-Series chassis, the racy-looking 2-seater Z3 was produced at BMW's plant in South Carolina. Wheelbase was shorter than the 3-Series, which lent many drivetrain and other components to the roadster. Only a 4-cylinder engine was available initially. The 1.9-liter dual-cam 4-cylinder engine produced 138 horsepower. A 5-speed manual transmission was standard, with 4-speed automatic and traction control optional. Standard equipment included dual airbags, antilock 4-wheel disc brakes, a limited-slip differential, and 16-inch tires on alloy wheels. The manually operated convertible top had a plastic back window.

Year-to-Year Changes


1997 BMW Z3: Traction control became standard. Later in the season, a more potent Z3 with a 2.8-liter, 6-cylinder dual-cam engine joined the original 4-cylinder Z3 1.9.

1998 BMW Z3:
Rollover bars became standard this year, and more heavily bolstered sport seats joined the option list. Wood trim and the power top also were available as separate options.A high-performance M roadster joined its Z3 mates in spring of 1998, packing a 3.2-liter 6-cylinder engine borrowed from the M3 sedan and coupe.

1999 BMW Z3: A hatchback coupe joined the 2-seat convertible and the 4- cylinder engine was replaced by a 2.5-liter inline six for '99. The new hatchback came as the Z3 Coupe 2.8 and the M Coupe, powered by the 2.8- and 3.2-liter engines. Side airbags were now standard across the board and the 2.8-liter six gained four horsepower.

2000 BMW Z3: Convertibles got revised tail styling and some new standard features, going on sale in spring 1999 as early 2000 models. Convertibles also gained an inner top liner and a new center console. All models got upgraded interior materials and a 3-spoke steering wheel.

2001 BMW Z3: All models had more power for 2001. The Z3 2.5i convertible got a 184-hp 2.5 liter in place of a 170-hp 2.3. The 3.0i convertible and hatchback got a 225-hp 3.0 in place of a 193-hp 2.8. The high-performance M Series models' 315-hp 3.2 liter replaced a 240-hp 3.2. Optional on 2.5i and 3.0i models was a 5-speed automatic in place of a 4-speed. All Zs got redesigned wheels for 2001, plus BMW's Dynamic Brake Control. M models now included a low-tire-pressure warning system.

2002 BMW Z3: An in-dash CD player was newly standard for 2002. BMW's Z4 would replace Z3 for 2003.


And here's my grown up opinion:

Buy a Yugo.

That way, you'll be the only person who gets hurt when you crash while driving high. [chair]
 


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