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There is a 'Reset' dude. Otherwise the reset procedure i advised would not have worked???. BMW would never of advised me to 'Reset' the memory???.

That is strange having blue tack there..!
Seems as though all should be well after replacing the sensor cable..
May be an idea to check the rest of the car for any more blue tack.. or maybe even post'it notes.. You never know [paranoid]

[bmwdance] [bmwdance]
 
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"The only warning lights on an E34 is the airbag light, and inspection/oil change lights."

So that red circle with dotted lines round it which looks like a brake pad warning light, and is referred to in the manual as a brake lining warning light... is, you're saying, in fact NOT a brake pad warning light? It looks like a brake pad warning light, the manual says it is... but you're telling me it isn't. Obviously it isn't then! [:o)]

Though I shouldn't take the p1ss until I've sorted the problem!
 
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I suppose the previous owner must have skimped on spending an extra £3 for the sensor, and done the blu-tack bodge to keep the warning light off. I'll get another sensor tomorrow and see if that sorts it.
 
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Right, here's the scoop. This'll make you laugh.

I went and got a new sensor for the front brakes. Put it on. Did the 45-second reset trick. No s0dding difference.

SO I checked the rear sensor - the new one that I'd put on the other day with the new pads.

[8] It's what sound engineers call "short circuit between the headphones": I'd forgotten to thread the cable through the clip that keeps it out of the way of the back wheel, and it had worn through both wires, and taken about two minutes to do so, since that's how long it took for the warning light to come back on after I first tried deedee47's reset trick. There's a score line all round the inside of the wheel where it scraped. I just took it off, soldered the wires and insulated them and stuck it back in.

Just to check that the reset trick is for real, I started the engine up - sure enough the brake warning light stayed on. I did the 45-second thing and it went off and stayed off. Problem solved.

Thanks everyone for the help! [:)] [:)] [:)]
 
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jesus christ, am I speaking a different language? The only warning lights that need reset are the airbag light, and the SI lights.

deedee47 you DO KNOW a 1997 5 series is not the same as a 1991 5 series? right? Becuase they DO come out with new cars and new technology throughout the years. Unfortunately the answer was in the 8th Post, then some assholes with E39's and E46's seem to think the E34 is exactly the same.

Not sure what "reset" you did becuase there is no reset for the brake lining warning. All you did was turn the ignition on. Bently mentions no reset and when I did the brakes there was no reset. What fixed your problem was making that sensor complete the circuit.

Maybe I'll start telling E39 owners that when they do valve jobs they only nee 12 valves, or maybe I'll go to e46 forums and say they only have 4 wheel studs becuase my e30 did. [rofl]
 
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Maybe it's voodoo then. Must be that chicken I split open last week! Actually the problem was intermittent for a while, as I think the broken ends of wire must have been making/losing contact - but once the circuit was complete again, the light still remained on... until I followed deedee47's advice.

I'm curious about this now - I might just go and take a sensor out just to see if the light goes off this time when I reconnect it, or if it needs the much disputed "reset" again.
 
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Raph said:
HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Maybe it's voodoo then. Must be that chicken I split open last week! Actually the problem was intermittent for a while, as I think the broken ends of wire must have been making/losing contact - but once the circuit was complete again, the light still remained on... until I followed deedee47's advice.

I'm curious about this now - I might just go and take a sensor out just to see if the light goes off this time when I reconnect it, or if it needs the much disputed "reset" again.
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The thing is, your keys are in "position 2" for 45 seconds every time you drive your car, because it stays in the on position the whole time you're driving. If anything it's just when the check control system sends the voltage out to check it.

Not to mention we have the same cars, and I had the exact same problem 5 months ago when I forgot to reinstall the sensor....
 
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"Not to mention we have the same cars, and I had the exact same problem 5 months ago when I forgot to reinstall the sensor...."

Erm... you can't have had the same problem - I have it on good authority, i.e. yours, that your car doesn't have a brake pad warning light - remember "The only warning lights on an E34 is the airbag light, and inspection/oil change lights."?

Because warning lights often come on intermittently - e.g. a bad connection might knock out a sensor which would then not sense a problem - it isn't at all implausible that BMW might have a warning light that needs to be reset so that you investigate the problem even if it's intermittent. Whether it's true or not though is another matter, and the fact the a BMW dealer says it is doesn't necessarily confirm that it is - I once rang a BMW dealer about a problem on my previous BMer and got a load of totally made-up trollocks about infra-red computer signals controlling the shocks blablabla - the guy was having me on big time, I tried not to laugh (though ultimately the joke was on me cos it was on my phone bill and he wasn't being any help)... anyway the long and short is that advice being "from the horse's mouth" isn't necessarily any use.

About the key being in position 2 while you're driving, yes of course it is, but it doesn't follow that there's no difference between position 2 before you've fired the engine and after. The service lights that count down to "inspection" go off once you crank the engine, and stay off when the key goes back to position 2 !!! Like I said, it must be voodoo.

I'm going to take off a sensor so the warning light comes on, then stick it back on, and see if it goes out. If it goes out without any "resetting", I'll genuflect to your hallowed memory for the rest of my life. ...well, until the weekend anyway...
 
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"I bet you get mad at bmw headlight design when the bulb burns out, dont you?"

(Warning: Extremely witty answer coming up)

Er, ... no.
 
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PS Why? Do the headlights need resetting when you change a bulb? e.g. by keeping the steering on full lock for two minutes and holding your breath?
 
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[:D] [:D]
lol
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That was entertaining!!
epj3.... Do i know a 1997 5 series is not the same as a 1991 5 series??? [scratch]
Yes of course! one say's 1997 and the other say's 1991
That was an easy one!!!

Look... Yes of course i do! Do you not think that i perhaps may have had a 5 '91?
Not to mention all the rest i have had???
Do you think that i do not know BMW's?? It seems i know maybe just a little more than you... I for one know that there is a warning light for the brakes, you dont!
It was me that told Raph to check his sensor cables... It was me that told him to reset the brake warning light... Which worked! Remember??

I don't know why you have to spout off when i have provided a fix and you did not......!

Start that BMW of your's up and get out more often...... [screwy] [screwy]
 
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read ALL posts before comment.

Eric knows that there is a damn warning light for the pads. He said the only warning lights that need to be reset are the SI and the airbag lights... Not that other warning lights do not exist on the car. GAA!
 
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"He said the only warning lights that need to be reset are the SI and the airbag lights"

"The only warning lights on an E34 is the airbag light, and inspection/oil change lights." - is what he said. "...that need to be reset" makes all the difference!

Anyway, it would have been an amazing coincidence if the intermittent problem disappeared just when the ignition had been on for 45 seconds before cranking the engine. The only way to find out is to take a connector off and try again, but I'm a bit busy at the moment! If we carry this argument on for a few more weeks I might just have to try it...
 
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Yawn.....
I said, you said, he said....

Whats the point??
Its done now and has been resolved.
lol
Gaa!
Goo goo gaa gaa...
lol
[spank]
 
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deedee47 said:
Yawn.....
I said, you said, he said....

Whats the point??
Its done now and has been resolved.
lol
Gaa!
Goo goo gaa gaa...
lol
[spank]
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I'm sure it is because we are talking over the internet but those comments seem just plain dumb. It's just a little frustrating that people don't read all of the posts then make some ill informed reply.
 
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And then you go and add your point of view!

I did read from the start... How do you think i knew what to suggest to fix?

Last word.
Its fixed.
Leave it.
 
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