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frolf said:
LAST YEAR:
400 Americans died in Iraq
600 Americans died in Chicago

looks like we better get the eff out of chicago
Only one problem with that thinking...
What percentage of the Americans in Iraq is that 400? Versus what percentage of the Americans in Chicago is that 600?
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[QUOTEBigDaddy, because people do not think like you does not make them narrow minded. You have used this from day 1 when I first came here when people do not agree with you. Why is this?

Where did I call anyone narrow minded? I can hardly respond to your attack about people disagreeing with me from day one because it is so poorly written. People do not agree with you either, so! I think if you search the entire Board you will find more people agreeing with me on various topics than not. Personal attacks are not necessary and in fact a violation of the Terms of Service you agreed to. Some of you have "broader views", in other words I have narrow views? And that does not make me wrong. I am not sure I follow your "broader" banter....
Well, lets see, I seem to recall defending you twice against those attacking you for your writing ability. I will find the posts.

Sorry that we do not agree but have you looked at the war polls? They speak for themselves. I read newspapers from four countries and there are a wide variety of opinions that cannot be written off because they do not conform to a single ideal, in my opinion.

I apologize if I offended you. These are bad topics because they bring out the worst in people and occasionally, in the heat of the moment, things are said that later seem too strong and don't truly reflect how a person feels about another. As an attorney I am sure you experienced this in court.

I was not raised a follower, or someone to conform to an idea because it is popular, or to act with complete loyalty without questioning purpose or motives. For this I am thankful, but it is certainly not to say that loyalty to a fault is without moral value, it’s just not right for everyone.
 
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Although I think these topics are hard to participate in because words can be misinterpreted, for me they provide a chance to talk to real people about how they feel about a situation. It's good to share thoughts on these important issues, but we have to respect one another's views.

ps. just stating how I feel, not taking a swipe at anyone. I've learnt more on this forum than I have out of the newspapers (with regards to opinion and analysis)...maybe I should read more [rolleyes]
 
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frolf said:
the United States is not all Christian, why are you all making so many references to Christianity? We are not the Christian capitol of the world, we have no set religion. We have a lot of Jewish and Islamic people.!
Total 284,800,000 100.0% - Christian 217,872,000 76.5%

With those statistics, the US is probably the Christian capital of the world in terms of total numbers. Russia could come in close to that, but I found no statistics.

At one time or another, every US president has probably been accused of being the AntiChrist by some group.

Please provide a reference to where the Vatican has claimed Bush is the AntiChrist. If they have taken this position, in the light of history, that is a HUGE historically significant statement. I think it would have been on CNN, the newspaper, etc. but I have seen nothing.


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James said:
Although I think these topics are hard to participate in because words can be misinterpreted, for me they provide a chance to talk to real people about how they feel about a situation. It's good to share thoughts on these important issues, but we have to respect one another's views.

ps. just stating how I feel, not taking a swipe at anyone. I've learnt more on this forum than I have out of the newspapers (with regards to opinion and analysis)...maybe I should read more [rolleyes]
I agree. I will no doubt get [boxface] for this but I even look at Aljazeera a couple of times a month, among other more "mainstream" publications.

There are some great political forums around also. I found one today (someone forwarded it to me and I can’t remember it now, it is on my computer at work) but there are political science PhD’s, economists and so on and it gets violent at times but is very interesting.
 

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I too have asked for resources on more than one "quote" but I never seem to get them.

Sorry Bryan330i I did not follow your train of thought regarding defending me. If I misunderstood I apologize. I sure do not feel like supporting President Bush is popular, and I do think for myself.
 
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Bigdaddy, this whole situation has become unbelievable.

YOU SAID: “I can hardly respond to your attack about people disagreeing with me from day one because it is so poorly written.”

I SAID: “Well, lets see, I seem to recall defending you twice against those attacking you for you’re writing ability. I will find the posts.”

YOU SAID: “Sorry Bryan330i I did not follow your train of thought regarding defending me.”

I am not going to continue arguments with you. You have sent me PMs and you know it! I will not post them because that would violate what I see as personal communications. You sent me a PM offering thanks for defending you when YOU were criticized for YOUR writing in September 2003. You objected then to those that were critical of you and you stated your reasons, yet now you take the same position as those that were critical of you?

You also wait for information to support claims that I have made. But at the same time all of these people are liberal idiots. The supporting information regarding Halliburton is widely available from a number of respected sources including The Wall Street Journal and a variety of other publications. What would be the point to continue if everything that is even slightly critical of the Bush administration is viewed by you as an attack by the liberals?

With regard to the bell curve voting patterns in the US, you made less than positive remarks about some individuals that have PhD’s, referring I believe to the people interviewed in the story regarding changing voting patterns.

Not only is there no winning here, which is not really the point, I don’t think that there is even a chance for reasonableness in our discussions.

I am not like some of the others you have drawn battle lines with in the past. I make a great deal in online purchases, unlike a very significant percentage of people whom only visit sites. I would estimate my personal online purchases exceed an average of $500.00 per month. I am also a Dun & Bradstreet rated purchaser in the 2.5-5.0 million bracket within the EXACT line of trade directly related to the board.

I certainly wish you the best and if you would be so kind as to permanently delete my membership from this board it would be greatly appreciated. I will not check back to see if this has been done but I will follow up with a letter in the mail as confirmation. [wave]
 
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I hope Bryan reconsiders - he's been a good neighbor on the board. A heated discussion to say the least, but it is a controversial topic. Not everyone needs to agree, nor should we. Diversity of opinion is invaluable....
 
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I hope Bryan reconsiders - he's been a good neighbor on the board. A heated discussion to say the least, but it is a controversial topic. Not everyone needs to agree, nor should we. Diversity of opinion is invaluable....
BTW, well said Kirby.
 
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Bryan330i said:
I agree. I will no doubt get [boxface] for this but I even look at Aljazeera a couple of times a month, among other more "mainstream" publications.

There are some great political forums around also. I found one today (someone forwarded it to me and I can’t remember it now, it is on my computer at work) but there are political science PhD’s, economists and so on and it gets violent at times but is very interesting.
Now that Bryan is no longer with us, does anyone know about these forums he was talking about?
 
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Kirby said:
I hope Bryan reconsiders - he's been a good neighbor on the board. A heated discussion to say the least, but it is a controversial topic. Not everyone needs to agree, nor should we. Diversity of opinion is invaluable....

well said indeed.
 

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Bryan and I have communicated via PM and as he has respected my privacy I will respect his. Suffice it to say that we are not angry with each other regardless of what he elects to do.
 
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not that this has anything to do with it...but the Japanese used to believe being beheaded was a sign of respect. some may have seen that movie, The Last Samuri, and it kind of portrayed it, but of course its a movie, and Tom Cruise is in it...so ya know....it aint perfectly acurate. 'Flyboy's' by James Bradly talks a lot about the Japanese history, since the book focuses on the importance of air support in WW2 @ Chichi Jima. The first 100 pages of that book explains a lot of the Japanese thinking/philosophies, quite interesting actually.

no one knows who the anti christ is. it could be 1000 years possibly before that time comes, no one knows. not the Vatican, the Pope, nobody. dont even bother to listen to those idiots, if thats what they are saying.
 
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